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Chairperson problems
Putting electors in the picture
We have no intention on reporting on what the press may regard as a political issue because we don't see it that way - and we trust that they will agree, although somehow we doubt it. The majority of Community Councillors (with the possibility of 1 or 2 exceptions) agree that the Community Council should be non-political. Members work to benefit the community in an unpaid capacity - they don't even get paid expenses!
At a special extraordinary council meeting held on 19th December 2008, the members present expressed no confidence in Chairperson Doreen Jones following her handling of recent meetings, and in particular the December Council meeting when many members of the public were present.
One Council member was asked to leave the room when he continually made political alegations, which others agreed were totally out of order and unfounded. To her credit, the Chairperson, reprimanded the said Counciller before he left the meeting.
Although it was stated that Councillor Doreen Jones was not voted into office of chairperson after the May elections, she stated that she had the right to remain in office even after the vote of no confidence, a point endorsed by the Clerk of the Council.
A Councillor, thought to be supporting the Chairperson, said that meetings had been lively but it was up to every member of the Council to behave in a manner expected of them. In reply to this it was stated that in the end it was up to the Chairperson to control meetings and not condone and agree with comments shouted out from the public gallery or make the alleged personal remarks and innuendos to fellow members.
The position of the Chair of the Council will have to be clarified in order that council business can be conducted with with confidence of all the elected members.
NOTE..... The meeting referred to above was held in the presence of the public and press.
Is this a Lame Duck situation?
Some thought provoking facts to get to the root of the problem.

We looked around the Internet for information about 'Lame Ducks' and similar situations and came up with some interesting facts. In the political world the term is applied to someone who loses power while still on office. In the case mentioned above it has been argued that the office in question was not held in accordance with statutory provisions, which over-ride any formulated standing order that may have been imposed. To put it another way, the Chairperson was not voted into office at the start of the term. It therefore seems that the vote of no confidence, referred to above, has simply highlighted a situation that should have been taken into consideration long before now. It is only natural to wonder why this matter has been allowed to brew for several months. No doubt someone, somewhere, has an answer that many would like to hear.
An article on the Internet states that: "Lame Duck officials tend to have less political power, as other elected officials are less inclined to cooperate with them. However, lame ducks are also in the peculiar position of not facing the consequences of their actions in a subsequent election, giving them greater freedom to act in an unpopular manner." This may not seem very democratic to the man in the street and we would welcome views on this.
Rhodri Morgan's Duck Gobbledegook
We are reminded about the AM's First Minister's question to a television interviewer: "Does a one legged duck swim in circles?" No doubt this also refers to a lame duck. It may lead to a situation where going around in circles will mean not getting anywhere. We feel that common sense will prevaill with those who want to benefit the community and hope that 2009 will be a happier year.
The foregoing comments are intended to stimulate thought and create a fair discussion. They are in keeping with the Council's open and above board policy of keeping electors informed - that is why the press and public were allowed to attend the meeting. For the record, they are only excluded when financial matters affect council employees. In the long run the Council will be more respected once they are seen to be acting in the interests of the electors who put them in office.

Caewern Community Centre
Morality v Financial Reality
The two sides to the story
With the threat of closure hanging over the Caewern Community Centre because of inherited health and safety problems from a previous administration, we thought we would look at both sides of the argument with the hope that everyone would understand the situation. We therefore asked two contributors to present five facts for you to consider and digest. Your views are welcome, as always, on our letters page.

Why there is a need for the Caewern Centre and why it should keep open
  • 1.     Caewern itself has a population of 1,148 electors (554 properties) compared with Bryncoch North ward's 1,882 electors (950 properties), and if compared in size with most of the other wards (e.g. Cadoxton Aberdulais Cilfrew etc) it is larger. This is a Community of forty two years where families have grown up together, grandparents to young children stay in Caewern and do not move out of the area. It is a very close knit Community.
  • 2.    Bryncoch South has a population of 4,526 electors (including the 1,148 from Caewern) and does NOT have a Christian Church. Bryncoch North has Three. The Caewern hall is currently used by Struthers Church, who have been active in serving our Community for a number of years, and if they leave the area there will not be a house of worship for the Community nor a place for the elderly and youth to meet and make new friends. It currently fosters a safe and sheltered environment for young people with the alternative of them being be out on the streets of Caewern causing Youth Annoyance, which could be costly?
    ED NOTE.   The point being made here is that the new Owain Glyndwr centre may be regarded as too small for the area for future use. To counter this point, it must be said that the new hall can be extended - because, unlike the Caewern building, the Community Council own the property. Another consideration the writer makes is keeping election voting facilities.
  • 3.     The elderly and frail sometimes do not have much to look forward to except for a weekly afternoon meeting with their friends and having a game of Bingo. If the hall closes these people could become a recluse and possibly will not see anyone from one day to the next. What a society to live in!
  • 4.     Forty young people attend the Friday Night youth Club, some queue outside for almost an hour for it to open as they look forward to the activities and to be in the warm with someone who cares about them.
  • 5.     The fifth reason is based on family values and the number of one parent families today. The economic climate in society has changed and it is our duty to care for the vulnerable, therefore a place is needed to be of service to the Community.
    More about Struthers Church in Neath

Facts why the Community Council says the Caewern Centre has to close

  • 1.     In order for Blaenhonddan Community Council to comply with current and future UK and EU health & safety regulations it is necessary for funds to be found to update halls and playgrounds within it's remit.The Owain Glyndwr and the Caewern Community Centre are very close to one another. Whilst one of these buildings is modern and up to date, requiring little money spent on it to comply with legislation, the Caewern Community Centre is in need of extensive outlay to bring it up to compliance with the necessary health & safety UK & EU laws.
  • 2.     The Owain Glyndwr and Caewern Community Centre are within less than half a mile of one another. However Blaenhonddan Community Council own the Owain Glyndwr Community Centre whilst the Caewern Community Centre is owned by Neath Port Talbot County Borough Council. While Blaenhonddan leases the Caewern Community Centre from Neath Port Talbot County Borough Council it is responsible for all maintenance on the building, which due to age and construction is a costly expense and set to become even more costly in the future. Money is currently being spent on a building owned by NPT CBC when it should be spent on buildings owned by Blaenhonddan Community Council, which are therefore an asset to them.
  • 3.     Blaenhonddan Community Council owes a duty to its electorate to manage the assets of the Community Council to the advantage of the majority of the precept payers. It is necessary, therefore, to evaluate the costs of older buildings against new buildings which are within close reach of one another. For this reason it has been decided that Caewern Community Centre should close.
  • 4.     The Owain Glyndwr Centre is able to assimilate the hirers currently using the Caewern Community Centre quite easily and as it is a more up to date and a higher specification building, utility costs will be minimised by the closure of Caewern Community Centre.
  • 5.     Due to climate change and the hike in energy prices, to unprecedented levels, it is necessary to utilise all halls to their full advantage. Minimising the amount of time halls are heated which can be achieved by putting more people into one hall during one day than heating 2 halls sometimes all day during winter months is a logical way forward. Older buildings do not have the insulation new buildings have and therefore use far more energy.
    Blaenhonddan Community Council's website

Ed Note     In spite of what some may think or say, this is not a political issue. Community Councillors of all parties voted in favour (the Chairperson and one councillor who has an interest in the hall abstained) of handing back the lease of the Caewern Community Hall to the Neath Port Talbot County Borough Council who own it - this means closing the hall.
As stated in our last version, the life of the hall has been extended to the end of the current financial year at an estimated cost of £4,000 to the Council. This goodwill gesture was agreed by all Councillors to allow time for the hall users to make suitable arrangements. In the meantime there are some working behind the scenes to find another possibility.
An ideal solution, if it were possible, would be for Struthers Church to take over the lease. It is thought that they may have the finances to put the building in order and run it to benefit the community. There is an old saying: "Where there is a will there is a way." A lot can happen in the weeks ahead!

Peter Hain MP - Offers help
Follow up to our previous report
Peter Hain MP for Neath Mr Peter Hain was informed that people are paying the builder deposits up to £1,000 for houses that have not been built on the Llwyn Helyg development at Waunceirch. He was requested to ask the Prime Minister if it were possible to safeguard these deposits in view of the uncertainty in the current financial situation.
We understand that Mr Hain is prepared to take up the matter of those involved if they contact him directly. This may be fine for those who are his constituents - but the snag is that some prospective buyers currently live in areas who have MP's of an opposition Party, and may think that their own MP should represent them.
We think that Mr Hain would do the nation a big service if he took this matter up in Parliament in view of the fact that it is not just a local problem. It would reveal his foresight and do him much credit. It would certainly be better if he did this before an opposition MP highlights the matter.
Peter Hain's website

Dai Lloyd AM - Still Waiting
Follow up to our previous report
Dr Dai Lloyd AM Dr Dai Lloyd attended Councillor's Dudley's monthly surgery and forum on the first Saturday of the month (6.12.08) at the Owen Glyndwr Community Centre and told residents he is still waiting for answers about the Welsh Assembly funding the Neath Eye-sore development at Waunceirch, known as "White's Folly."   Dr Lloyd was made aware of people paying deposits of up to £1,000 for houses that have not yet been built and that no work was being done on the site.
Community Housing - Housing Associaton Scheme
Dr Lloyd clearly stated that council tennants (and they alone) would have the opportunity to vote and have the final say regarding the options now being considered by the local authority. He went to to say that there were varying responses in other areas and added that a change was rejected in the neighbouring Swansea area.
Dai Lloyds website

Tesco opens Waunceirch store
Tesco Supermarkets opened their Tesco Express Waunceirch Store at Dwr-y-felin Road on 10th December 2008 and we hope it will provide a good service to the community. A close watch will be kept on the new commercial activity as the combined sales of alcohol, tobacco, chewing gum with the adjacent cash machine could cause problems.
Chewing Gum Fact
It costs 3p to buy a stick of chewing and costs 10p to remove it from the floor. Look at the ground outside the Caewern Post Office and see the result of those who have no pride in the area in which they live.

Readers letters on the following subjects appear on our LETTERS PAGE
  • Resident Kevin Morgan expresses his views about the Community Council
  • Cllr Frank Little expresses his view about the Caewern Community Centre
  • Fish and Chips and a parking space create problems
  • Toads at "White's Folly" - an environmental issue
  • A parent's concern about a fish and chip shop at Waunceirch
  • Speaking out - a comment by a community councillor
  • Tesco - the wasters. Supermarkets cause waste?
  • Do councillors have more to say behind closed doors?

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